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07/18/2009: "Black Philadelphia police sue over message board, say it's racist"

(CNN) -- A group of black Philadelphia police officers filed a federal lawsuit Thursday against their department, alleging an online forum geared toward city police is "infested with racist, white supremacist and anti-African-American content."

The suit alleges white officers post on and moderate the privately operated site, Domelights.com, both on and off the job.

Domelights' users "often joke about the racially offensive commentary on the site ... or will mention them in front of black police officers," thus creating "a racially hostile work environment," according to lawyers for the all-black Guardian Civic League, the lead plaintiff in the suit.

A look at the site's forums Friday for racist comments found several possibilities.
Reads one: "In urban areas, it seems [African-Americans] living on welfare in paid for housing is ingrained in their culture as well as fighting. ... Kids, along with adults can't speak proper English or spell at a 3rd grade level, but they can sing among "theyselves" the lyrics to a rap song."

Said another Domelights user of an African-American woman: "She is a classic example of that exact non tax paying, no car insurance driving, bad weave wearing, all the whitey's are racist black women."

The site's tagline is "the voice of the good guys."

"Every time African-Americans do or say something in our city, we get this backlash of cops who think they're anonymous on this Web site -- just racist, nasty, hurtful things about what we do," said Rochelle Bilal, the president of the Guardian Civic League and a 23-year veteran of the force.

The league's attorney said other black officers echo Bilal's statement.

"We've heard the same story over and over again, which is that [African-American officers] witness in the workplace Domelights being used and discussed [in a racial manner]," said Brian Mildenberg, whose firm is also representing a Philadelphia day camp that recently gained national attention when its mostly black campers were turned away from a swim club.

He said it was "a gift from the heavens in a way that the two things happened at once."
While Mildenberg and Bilal said they had been monitoring the 10-year-old Web site for years, the pool incident did seem to play into the timing of the lawsuit.

"When they said something about our pretty, brown, young, innocent children and called them monkeys because they wanted to go swimming, that was enough," Bilal said.

She may have been referring to this comment posted on Domelights: "Maybe the people who work for a living didn't want to swim with a bunch of ghetto monkey faces."

The lawsuit also highlights comments made on Domelights by the site's founder and administrator, a sergeant in the Philadelphia police force who goes by the online handle "McQ."

A statement from McQ that Mildenberg described as "racially abusive commentary" reads, "Blacks and other minorities frequently don't have the resources that white people have. Consequently, blacks may not be able to keep their vehicles inspected, registered, and roadworthy."

McQ is also listed as a defendant in the lawsuit. Asked why McQ bears responsibility for the racist remarks of his site's anonymous commenters, Mildenberg said it was because "he started it."

The person known as McQ did not respond to a request for comment, but posted a message on the site citing the lawsuit. McQ wrote that the suit may cause the Web site to be suspended, but added his statement was not an admission of wrongdoing.

"I categorically deny any wrongdoing on my part," the message reads. "I did not make racist posts. I did not maintain the Web site on city time."

Ideally, Mildenberg said, his clients would like to see the site shut down. Failing that, they want Philadelphia Police officers to be prohibited from posting comments on the site, particularly during working hours.

The plaintiffs in the class-action suit also are seeking unspecified financial damages available under the Civil Rights Act for Philadelphia's 2,300 African-American police officers, according to Mildenberg.

Shelley Smith, Philadelphia's city solicitor, said. "The lawsuit is about a private Web site. It's not a police department Web site. It's not operated or overseen by the police department. The allegations against the city and police department are misplaced."

Link here.

Quartermain's Quarter: No discussion of why the police officers would be compelled to discuss said topic in the manner it was posted? Is it just white cops making the racial remarks? Why couldn't the black cops set up their own website, forum or chat room and vent in the same manner? What happened to the First Amendment right for freedom of speech, press and assembly. Is Domelights.com really a threat or is this an Orwellian suit based on thought crimes? Is this another scam to go somewhere where they know they will be offended, scream 'racism' and collect big bucks in a law suit? CNN did not ask these questions.

Replies: 5 Comments

on Saturday, July 18th, Jessa said

I've heard that S.909 (Hate Crime Bill) passed this past Thursday, July 16th.

on Sunday, July 19th, Q said

It came with a compromise.

http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/senatepasshbyetdemocratscomp.htm

Still a jurist could nullify it by voting not guilty.

Or a Judge could throw out the case if it's regarding speech on Constitutional grounds.

In P.C Britain, a little white boy was prosecuted for calling another boy "Paki" even though the two boys settled it between themselves and became friends. The judge threw out the case.

on Tuesday, July 21st, Ann said

""In urban areas, it seems [African-Americans] living on welfare in paid for housing is ingrained in their culture as well as fighting. ... Kids, along with adults can't speak proper English or spell at a 3rd grade level, but they can sing among "theyselves" the lyrics to a rap song.""

That isn't racism. Those are facts. I see it myself as I go into these neighborhoods every day for my work. The other day, I was seeing a client and the police were swarming the "project". By the time I wanted to leave I couldn't get out because the police had barricaded the streets in and out of the neighborhood. The residents, mainly black, were all out on their porches watching, laughing, like they were having a good time. It seemed like it was entertainment to them. If that were my neighborhood and that was going on, I would be terribly afraid and the last place I would want to be is out on my porch being a spectator.

This is their life. Not mine. Its not racist to talk about the facts.

I have not been to Domelights and it seems the page you linked to is gone.

Blacks have all sorts of "black only" things. When us whites want to have something of OUR own, its racist?

Give me a freaking break!

I think white people need to start using the legal system like blacks do and start suing every time someone uses the word cracker or other anti white title within earshot. Although whites normally don't give two shits if these words are used, we need to start taking people to court who use this sort of language against us. That means black message boards, media, at work, etc.

Whites need to start making the point that if its not good for the goose, its not good for the gander.

on Wednesday, July 22nd, Q said

Using the legal system to sue someone uses derogatory whit racial terms including redneck, hayseed, and hick within earshot & message boards, etc. I love the idea tremendously.

on Thursday, July 23rd, Ann said

I really hope whites step up to the plate and start doing this. I am certainly not afraid to.